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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by milanshentu on Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:34 am


Honestly i don't know thats why the past tense. He was when being raised by our friend/breeder but since then he has went to his new home and they have not called her to let her know how he is doing.

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Siobhan on Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:10 pm

Hi Mario,

I completely understand where you are coming from, and I really do wish I could do something for this bird, however....

The Federal Fish and Wildlife Commission has no jurisdiction in Ireland. We are governed by a 1911 Act which defines an animal as being dogs, cats, bull, asses, mules etc. It is extremely outdated and is open to interpretation. Also the ISPCA has no rights to arrest someone, the Gardai need to be involved. To the onlooker, the bird has a cage in which he can stretch his wings...just, he has food, he has water and he has at least one toy. When you consider that in my county there is one full time SPCA member and the rest are voluntary I sincerely doubt they would get involved. Also I cannot report him anonomously as I have called them and asked that. They told me I would have to leave my name for the record, otherwise they would not follow up on the call in case it was just a personal vendetta.

I am not trying to not get involved, its that I can't. I am doing my best for him by constantly suggesting improvements to the owner. The only way I can get him out of the situation is by paying the 3500 euro he wants for him, and I havent got that Sad
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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by ziggy on Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:16 pm

Hello,

I have to say that you are wrong on two subjects that you posted.

1) you say the cage is way to small for the bird.

The Federal Fish and Wildlife Comm has laws in place on guidelines on what size cage all birds must have at a minimum. If this cage you say does not fit the requirements then it is considered Neglect. Neglect is a form of ABUSE and this is within the laws for immediate removal of the bird.


2) You say that the ISPCA will go nowhere.

By LAW they have to check EVERY complaint that is filed with the agency. You can stay enonomous when you put in the complaint. If you feel that there is some sort of neglect or abuse it is your duty to report this to them. They have to open up a investigation and then they wil determain if it is neglect or abuse.


There are the solutions to the complaints that you have. These are things that are writin law and you need to make it start to get in motion. You will have to call both agencies and start the ball rolling. You can at least force him to make better living arrangments for the bird.That is at least. The best thing would be that for what you are telling me would be for this man to have the bird removed or to have it rehomed. Birds can not tell you like a dog or a cat when something is wrong. They in the wild have to suck it up and look as there is nothing wrong. The reason for that is so they do not show weakness and fall victim to a predator. All birds are not classified as domestic animals,they are classified as a wild animal. They will revert back to there wild statis in certain cases and being hurt or neglected will fall back to a wild instinct. I hope you have a better understanding on this and make the right call on what to do. This needs to stop it is going on everywhere and we as bird lovers need to stick up for what is right. There are no clear cut laws in place for a bird so I am lobbying to all of you to help out by contacting you state legeslator to have them start to place CLEAR CUT LAWS in place to protect birds. I have been working with others on different forums and they are all starting to help me out with this. We need to stand together and put a stop to bird abuse and neglect by having laws in place to protect them.

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Siobhan on Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:33 pm

About a year ago he had a grey in a small and I mean SMALL cage on the top shelf of the shop. I kept asking about the Grey and was told she was mean and that was why she was kept up so high. Eventually I offered to take her home for a while to see if I could tame her again, on the understanding that if I could she was to be rehomed. The day I was to collect her, he called me to say she had been rehomed. I know the lady who took her and honestly I think she is still in the same cage, and still not allowed out of it.

I have made loads of comments about Freddie (the B&G) to him asking about when and how often he lets him out, about his diet (he seems to get only a seed mix) and lots of stuff like that, letting him know that his life is far from ideal. Freddie used to be let sit on top of the cage, but he has made a run for it down the street a few times. Once he made it as far as the video shop and I reckon he was trying to rent Chicken Run! So now the owner says he lets him out for an hour in the evening when the shop is shut. I don't believe him, but I can't prove anything. He geniunely loves Freddie, he gets a new toy whenever he destroys the last one, but I don't think its fair having strangers poke at him all day long. Birds shouldnt live in shops... bottom line. But he isnt actually abusing him technically speaking.

I don't think I would get anywhere with the ISPCA. All I can do is keep making suggestions to the owner really.
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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Jay on Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:37 pm

ziggy wrote:I can not agree with you more Jay. If you look at my tread "Rally the troops" This is simular to what I am doing to a local DJ. This is a high profile case and I am making it well known over the air that he will not get away with what he is doing. Please take this in to concideration that a bird can not talk for itself so you need to talk for him/her. You need to confront this man and get him to realise that he is in the wrong and needs to correct the problem. Use the tactics of threat. Tell him you will make some calles to PETA and the ASPCA. This just may get him to consider to sell the bird. If at least he changes the cage and get a RIGHT SIZED cage then you did the right thing. Put you ego and pride to the side and make a stand against this man.

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Thanks Ziggy and yes I have read "rally the troops"
If I can help in anyway pls let me know.

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by ziggy on Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:20 pm

I can not agree with you more Jay. If you look at my tread "Rally the troops" This is simular to what I am doing to a local DJ. This is a high profile case and I am making it well known over the air that he will not get away with what he is doing. Please take this in to concideration that a bird can not talk for itself so you need to talk for him/her. You need to confront this man and get him to realise that he is in the wrong and needs to correct the problem. Use the tactics of threat. Tell him you will make some calles to PETA and the ASPCA. This just may get him to consider to sell the bird. If at least he changes the cage and get a RIGHT SIZED cage then you did the right thing. Put you ego and pride to the side and make a stand against this man.

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Jay on Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:02 pm

Siobhan wrote:Ziggy is sooo beautiful. I really really want a Macaw, but I would have to build a new room because I have no more room for cages in my house.

There is a Macaw in our local petshop for the past 2 years. Originally he was for sale, but now he is the shop pet. He hardly ever gets out and he is in a cage which is about half the size of the one I have for my Greys. I soooo want to take him home. He knows me at this stage from going in and out and always says hello and puts his head side ways against the bars for a scratch. I have already challenged the owner over a grey that he kept in a tiny cage, and that bird has been brought to his house. But now the B&G is stuck in the shop. My husband has warned me not to challenge him again. (Its a very small town and word spreads like wildfire). Sad

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I say go for it!!!! Small town or not, if you feel that macaw is being mistreated.
Someone has to be the voice for these animals
Just do what feels right

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by greenwinged on Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:27 pm

Very cute PIC's Smile My BG name is Olivia and she a drama queen she all sweet and will let you pet her anywhere as long as she isn't on her perch, and if you try and get her off she get all noise and "ACT " like she going to bite you but the wrost she doen is scratch me. She only does when she on her perch and every once and awhile she won't even do it, she has me confued?

I would get you a picture, but I can't figure that out, yet!
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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by OHSNAP! on Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:04 pm

Honestly i don't know thats why the past tense. He was when being raised by our friend/breeder but since then he has went to his new home and they have not called her to let her know how he is doing.
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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Ronda on Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:49 pm

Those are very nice Eric! I take it PeeTree isn't so friendly anymore? Maybe Joe can help! I know he did wonders with teaching me things to do with SweetHeart!

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by OHSNAP! on Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:42 pm

Our TAG was raised side by side with a B&G and 2 CAGs. His name is Peetree and at the time was a very friendly youngster. Here are some pics.







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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Siobhan on Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:20 pm

Ziggy is sooo beautiful. I really really want a Macaw, but I would have to build a new room because I have no more room for cages in my house.

There is a Macaw in our local petshop for the past 2 years. Originally he was for sale, but now he is the shop pet. He hardly ever gets out and he is in a cage which is about half the size of the one I have for my Greys. I soooo want to take him home. He knows me at this stage from going in and out and always says hello and puts his head side ways against the bars for a scratch. I have already challenged the owner over a grey that he kept in a tiny cage, and that bird has been brought to his house. But now the B&G is stuck in the shop. My husband has warned me not to challenge him again. (Its a very small town and word spreads like wildfire). Sad

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Re: Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by Ronda on Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:11 pm

That is Awesome! That give the beginner soo much info in one place! Thanks for posting that!

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Blue and Gold Macaw

Post by ziggy on Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:07 pm

I have A Blue and Glod named Ziggy. He is a very lovable bird and a clown. I have a lot of stories for you about him.

Origin: Northern South America, Brazil


Temperment: These are the most common large macaw in pet stores and homes. They are incredibly active and playful, yet can calm down enough for a good head scratch.


Socialization: This Macaw is a big favorite with present and future Macaw owners and it has to do with personality. They are affectionate with their owners, but sometimes shy or aggressive with strangers. They are able to accept different family members. If a person decided to get a Macaw for the first time, this one would be the one to pick.


Toys: They are notorious chewers with their large beaks and very active, so many toys and a large cage is necessary. Also, a very large playstand is a necessity. The toys should be the type that can be destroyed. Making home made toys does save money.


Cage: A very large cage is needed. It must be big enough to accomodate their wings when they are extended. A large cage prevents the wings from being damaged
The cage should be at least 36" x 48" or bigger. Bar Spacing should be no smaller than 1" to 1 1/2"





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